Hi! Come Introduce Yourself!

Sorry if my message feel like this, but I had no intention of being ironic : you just live in the perfect town for the best help, I didn’t know the office was closed

So… Mod Audio is closed… out of business… not a good news!!
I’d like to have information from Mod guys…

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Don’t think Mod Audio is closed, between summer and the very little team it seams normal to not be open now…
The facebook page is still active, instagram not so much…

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Mod audio is definitely still a going concern, but it might take a little while to get a response as I know it’s been a very busy time for a small team the last few weeks.
If when you power-up the Mod Duo X and the screen is blank that does sound like a hardware fault that will either a firmware re-install (which you may be able to do yourself) or more likely a return for repair.
Hope you get a response soon.

thank you very much ianr! that is the first really helpful information!

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What’s up Mod Audio people? I picked up a Mod Duo and it’s now the last piece in the signal flow of my fancy pedalboard. So far I like what I see. I look forward to getting deep with this thing and doing some unique tricks with it. I’ll be posting a few questions here. I’ve done lots of reading about the device… but when a product evolves over its life cycle like this one did/does, it’s hard to pour over old posts that could well be obsolete by now. So I’ll be asking some questions that I’m sure have been asked before. Just wondering what the state of things is here in 2024.

THANKS

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Hi @spaetzel_crusher

Welcome!

The original Duo, although old, is still a very capable unit. Its main limitation is the small power of its CPU in relation to the newer plugins, not allowing full chains.

As an effects unit it can still shine though. The modulation-delay-reverb plugin categories contain multiple great options - like the Shiro reverbs and delays, the convolution reverbs, the Overtone chorus and phaser - and in the distortion side, the Colombo pedals are simply magnificent.

Hope you enjoy

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It’s a brave new world of digital pedals. The approach you guys have taken is probably the most interesting.

Luckily for me I’m adding this to an already complex pedalboard, so I’m not assembling huge signal chains in the Mod Duo. This is going to be tasked with doing unorthodox and stunning things. It’s kind of like how Frank Zappa had Steve Vai credited as stunt guitarist. Raucous and slightly perplexing yet undeniably impressive.

I keep talking about it doing tricks but the fundamentals are so strong. The verbs and delays are not what I got it for, but they are surprisingly great. I spent days dialing in a Collider right before I got this. Now I try these out and they seem to sound way better. That can’t be right. None have the character of oil can delay or e-dome reverb, but as a package they are cleaner, brighter, more integrated.

I’ve got more A/B-ing to do before I can stand behind that statement but I am super impressed.

If we could just plug-and-play expand the I/O the word juggernaut comes to mind…

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Now we’re talking! :slight_smile:

If you’re in for the madness, then make sure to check how to control your plugins with CVs

And some plugins that, although not much popular, are among my personal favorites for weird/unusual sounds:

Hope you have fun!

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Hello

I am boblewis. I am new to this forum community and very excited to get involved ! I am looking forward to contributing and learning from the community.

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Wow I’m glad I said something. The cv control of effects is quite promising. That’s not something you see everywhere! I can think of a lot of uses,

Fun will be had for sure!

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Hello! I’m new to here from South Korea!

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Hi everyone. My name is David. I’m a guitarist and sporadic composer from London UK, now retired and living in Spain. I have been studying the present state of the art and doing my best to keep abreast of technological developments in this fast growing field. I was impressed with this company and it’s Open Source approach to product development, and have been comparing this with other commercial options, but I see that most of them cannot compare to what the Mod Audio devices are able to offer in terms of versatility and pretty much limitless expansion and most of their products are much more expensive, plus the fact that so many of the plugins are free.
Unfortunately I am having to work within considerable financial constraints for several reasons, so I am forced to make very careful choices when it comes to purchasing equipment. My present setup is quite modest, with only a minimalist pedal board, so the idea is to use the Mod device for pretty much everything.
It so happens that I have found some very tempting offers on a used Mod Dwarf and also a Mod Duo and MODX, and I would appreciate advice about which of these to choose? The price difference is minimal, and both are like new, although obviously neither would come with any sort of guarantee. The Mod Duo is 180€, the Mod Dwarf is 360€ and Mod Duo X is 399€. Having gleaned what I can from information online it seems as though the Mod Dwarf is more geared towards guitarists and live use, but is less powerful and less versatile than the Mod Duo or Mod Duo X, but I have also observed that there don’t seem to be any retailers selling the Mod Duo X, which makes me nervous about purchasing one used if it is no longer being developed, since I am one of those who purchased an Atomic AmpliFire modeller, only to find that it is no longer supported since the company folded? Thank you for your help and advice.

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The Duo is much less powerful than the Dwarf.
It is the “first generation” device that has a 32bit ARM CPU (instead of 64bit) at lower frequency, less cores and less memory.

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The Mod DUO X is the most powerful of these devices.
Dwarf is “second best” in this regard, and Mod Duo is several years older and will have by far lower processing power (which can severely limit the options you have considering plugins / pedalboards to use).

Considering Duo X: it has higher processing power than the Dwarf, so you can e.g. load more plugins at the same time (or more complex ones).
While the Dwarf is designed as a Floorboard Pedal style device, the DuoX is more of a Desktop Device.
Which is actually better when you “play around” a lot with settings and want to fine- adjust a lot.
But if you want to switch things while playing guitar, you will need an external footswitch, as Duo X does not like to be stepped on :wink: .

Also, when buying a used Duo X, make sure it is NOT a “Limited Edition” (LE) version.
Those were the first ones and have some issues with elements that can not easily be updated any more (others can explain this better than me, I was just following some disussions about this…).
LE version does not have a Power switch, while the “standard” retail version does have such a switch (so that’s the way to find out which version it is).

Since Dwarf is the newest product in the MOD portfolio (and the only one currently still being sold), you can expect it to have the longest ongoing support.
Other than that, MOD have proven to support their devices quite a long time.
MOD Duo was released in 2016, and while it is not getting automatic system updates any more (starting this year), currently you can still update it to new firmware releases manually.

https://wiki.mod.audio/wiki/FAQ#What_are_the_differences_between_the_MOD_Duo.2C_the_MOD_Duo_X_and_the_MOD_Dwarf.3F

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Hi there, I am Jess from Maine :wave: I just recently started playing with Mod desktop on rocky 9 (running a realtime kernel based on 6.12). I play a combination of neoclassical fingerstyle / jazz / mathy metal. Currently most of my neck time is on a new 9 string I am totally smitten with, the flubbery extended range is actually what prompted me to look around for new ways to amp and process guitar the guitar tone.

Extremely impressed by application, bought a dwarf less than 48 hours after I first compiled the desktop app over the weekend.

I am really keen on contributing to the code (glad to volunteer some packaging work if that is is still needed) and hope to see Mod audio succeed financially.

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Welcome! I’ve got to see this 9-string beast. Post your setup over here!

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Many thanks for taking the time to respond. It was my intention to use a MIDI foot pedal such as the M-Vave Chocolate, which from what I’ve read here and elsewhere seems to work with Mod Audio devices - as well as adding expression control. In fact I dislike trying to mess with floor board type processors on the floor. I’d much prefer having the screen at eye level and being able to easily tweak the knobs if necessary - much easier on my back too…
But what I still need to ascertain is whether 399€ is a reasonable price for a used Mod Duo X, given the fact that it is not a current model with only limited support?
I haven’t been in contact with the seller yet, but of course I’ll ask if they know whether or not it is the problematic SE model before negotiating the price.

Many thanks for your comprehensive reply and advice. I was already aware of the issues with the SE model, but I wasn’t quite sure how to go about checking that with the seller, since he doesn’t appear to know much about the device, and I’m assuming that perhaps he’s not too tech savvy.
But I do need to know whether the asking price of 399€ is reasonable, given the fact that the Mod Duo X is no longer a current model and won’t be receiving future updates or improvements which the Mod Dwarf receives.

This is very reasonable, especially if it’s a production unit (that has a power switch on the back).

In what way do you think the support is limited? Only some HMI changes with the Dwarf receive different/less updates, but otherwise it’s the same treatment and OS under the hood.

The DuoX will still receive firmware updates together with the Dwarf. Only the Duo (the very first MOD production model) won’t receive automated updates (but can likely still be manually updated).