Expression pedal update

I think the folks who have taken vacations are waiting on events that are beyond their control. Once these issues are resolved they will continue their work on the expression pedal. The price of steel has gone from about $440USD/ton in July of 2020 to $1,270USD in March of 2021. It looks like it went down to a little over $800USD/ton as of January of this year. I don’t know what it is today, and the numbers I’ve cited here may not be very accurate.

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I think everyone who comments on here have valid points whether it be good or bad.

The frustrations are valid - but from my point of view this is a bit of a poisoned chalice.

Those that got handed the project to sort out after various mistakes and design changes , to the changes in the world itself , they were never going to win.

However from my point of view I don’t see the need for the time , stress and arguments for a product that won’t be highly sought after in the same way most of us don’t have the foot switch with our dwarves and Duo’s.

Control chain seemed really positive but the products are limited in my mind compared to others on the market. As is the documentation to roll your own.

I think people who have waited 5 years and still not got a definitive update have been let down. Maybe just cut your loses and give the money back and move forward with tier 3 completion.

Once that’s done maybe chat to the guys on the forum and see what we actually want or need in a foot controller or even a desktop controller. And then move forward together. Like I said before there are plenty of people on here that have experience of all aspects of design , manufacture and coding that could help. Thus preventing what is going on at present.

These are just my thoughts and I appreciate everyone’s voice .

Stay safe out there and keep rocking

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I also sense there are a lot of different priorities that need to be taken care but if you’re busy keeping the saucers turning, it’s hard to move forward. We’re in no position to speak for the strategy of the company since most of us don’t hold shares but we “sense” things of course…
In my opinion, when resources are low, you focus on the core products and the customer satisfaction. The quality of the product x the quality of the service make up a great deal of your reputation. There are tons of other internal and external factors like vendor locking, supply issues and economic instabilities so I agree in your thinking that perhaps some choices have to be made. (pausing/abandoning/investing/…)

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I find actually customer satisfaction is key - I have at least a couple of music stores I refuse to buy from due to poor attitude, failing to see the problem or admitting there is an issue, even if they are the only ones with what I need!

Sometimes I feel that is the case here which is a shame as most times it’s very inclusive. You only have to look at the power supply issue to see where it goes wrong. Never mind the Expression pedal.

Push on with Dwarf and Duo X - make them do what they promised ie audio interface etc, get them all shipped and move forward with next project.

And ask us what we want next maybe as we are the customer /fan base.

As always my feelings no Hurt intended to anyone else

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I bought DUO + ​​FOOT + EXPRESSION… I sold my entire set for this… I had BOSS, ELETRO HARMONIX, VOX, FULLTONE, SANSAMP, among others… I had 16 effects on the board… which I gradually acquired since my 12 years. I was very impressed with the project and, being headed by a Brazilian, like me, I was encouraged and made the deal. Honestly, today I use the MOD very little, I don’t have the courage, I even changed my way of playing during that time. If you look at my previous posts, you’ll see that I haven’t been comfortable with the situation for a long time. Anyway, I hope this pedal ends soon so I can cut the umbilical cord that the company is still linked to me.

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Like you I learnt the hard way selling kit for next amazing bit of kit. Only to be bitterly disappointed. Zoom G9.2tt and B9.1ut if I’m being honest - don’t laugh . I lost microsynth, vox phaser, big muff, bass balls , gt3 etc . I vowed never to do that again

Even when I bought my Helix Floor I kept every pedal and amp.

And now I run a combination of everything but mainly just VST on PC as in-between bands at present.

Probably least used is Dwarf just because it’s a bit clunky / impossible to edit without pc - which causes massive noise aswell.

Thankfully I bought it more as a USB hub control which it’s doing OK at but could be a lot better.

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project management at work learned me never to switch to something without having a transition period. But that’s not related. The common denominator in many User Journeys is communication/expectation management. I still think Mod Devices needs to communicate more AND better and allocate some occasional high priority to it.in order to be pro-active. Speaking when asked about it is too late. Eternal prio #2 is the death of every initative :stuck_out_tongue:

a lot less noise since I switched to this power supply

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So I was scrolling back, and I think the last update was that there was some financial discussions happening in order to get the pilot batch ordered from the manufacturers in June. I’m assuming we are still in that phase of waiting for the financial discussions to be completed before ordering the pilot batch? I know it may be a longshot, but is there a target for when things should be closed up? Thanks for your time in responding, and hope you are all having a great week

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Please see Gian’s update

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Gotcha, thank you

I reread Gian’s update again last night. As I said in my reply - the reboot was not a surprise to me. Long established business worldwide have gone out of business due to covid/shutdown/supply-chain issues. I see the mod situation as a ‘reorganization’, not a ‘going out of business’.

What we - the backers - see on our end is only one side of this. The dedicated people working on this project - people with families who depend on them - apparently have been working long hours without pay. Some have invested large sums of their own money just to keep the project afloat.

Can’t remember the exact quote, but it was sports related:

“There’s someone out there who knows exactly what needs to be done and can step in and fix everything. If only we could get them to put down their beer and come down out of the stands”.

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I feel a bit down, obviously less than the people from Mod but still…

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Unless I misunderstood something, the expression pedal is scheduled to start shipping before the end of the year. Is that sill the case?

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There are a few things still to figure out with production, but yes, that’s the goal.

EDIT: please refer to @friedsilence post below for a more accurate answer. He really knows it better than me since he takes care of everything production related.

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Our target is to finish DVT (design validation test) production of 20 units this year still. Which was fully prepared already in March and basically waiting some time for parts payment, until we needed to cancel due to failed fundraisers. So I am procuring everything again right now. Lead times suck, but are still moderate. We shall have order confirmations soon and will keep you updated.

Though from these 20 there will be only a limited amount of units available for backers who are helping beta test firmware etc. Please raise your hands already if you are up for that!

Shipping to all backers can happen in the following batch next year. But as said by @gianfranco in the reboot threads, it’s not part of our current budget. There will be a fair proposal once we are ready to dimension the production, also depending on further fundraisers and our income from sales.

I’m sorry it’s impossible to catch up the time lost until we got operational again recently. Yet I’m happy the slowest project in the history of MOD is moving again!

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Great to hear! Please put me on the list for beta testers!

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list me also for beta testing, plz! :+1:

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Also would be very excited to be a beta tester. Thank you

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Do you have a link to the spec? I’m keen to know what it does beyond my ultra cheep pedal. It’s got a screen I see so it must be cool :stuck_out_tongue:

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