DISTRHO - Cardinal

This is weird, Host CV module on desktop should definitely look different.

the cv ports are hidden on the “native” variant, as to not confuse users who might think they are usable ports.
but yeah that breaks this usecase…

Ah, right for non-Jack users.
Well one can run the plugin version as well and that should be able to connect right? (it does here)

Cool - thanks @dreamer will try it on the plug-in version

Nope, no joy in Logic using the AU version - still blank

AU would make sense, since it doesn’t support anything pretty much.

Try VST3/LV2/Clap instead, these 3 should all have Host CV module available.

Cardinal FX VST3 doesn’t work - nothing visible as before.

The main Cardinal VST does show ports but not working in the Cardinal plugin on MOD environment - FX or the main Cardinal one.

Any idea of LV2 hosts for Mac?

Carla, Kushview Element, Reaper, Ardour, Harrisson Mixbus, Tracktion Waveform, Zrythm. Cardinal.
(yes, Cardinal can host itself. see the Ildaeil or Carla modules)

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Oh cool - was going to try Reaper, good to know

Sorry @dreamer - LV2 not working in Reaper either, tried with all iterations and no joy,

I don’t this setting up this CV is possible at all right now - guessing something needs to be enabled on the MOD environment for this to work?

Huh, this is strange.

For me on Linux in Reaper I can use VST3, LV2 and CLAP of Cardinal (so not Mini, Synth or FX) that load the Host CV module.

My bad - Monday brain hadn’t properly connected the CV in MOD.

SPECTRAL now working a treat on the MOD DUO X - all mapped and good to enjoy here folks.

More to follow - VERY happy about this :slight_smile:

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This one actually works

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why the many control to cv? the “host params” module provides the knobs as a cv source to patch in to other things.

Ah - didn’t know that! Only had this thing a few days :slight_smile:

A few others up there now - the time stretcher and resonator options didn’t work out.

Still - they’re there an mapped to knobs on the MOD DUO X so hope people have some fun sonic mangling with them

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@falkTX Understand what you mean now - I’d tried that but that feature doesn’t seem to work on the MOD version of Cardinal, whereas using CV does.

Except that’s exactly what I showed in my screenshot and it works great for me.

Odd - tried it again with a more complex setup today and worked fine.

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SOLVED: turned out it was mainly a performance issue. See at the bottom…

I hope that’s also the right place to ask for help on using Cardinal on the Dwarf?

I am trying top deploy a Synth patch made in Cardinal to my Dwarf, using the description here:
https://github.com/DISTRHO/Cardinal/blob/23.10/docs/MODDEVICES.md

First thing that I found confusing was that I could only find a “Cardinal FX” in the Plugin store, no synth or mini, despite on the web plugin catalogue this exists: Cardinal - MOD Audio

But as I saw the FX has midi in, I assumed I can try to deploy a Cardinal synth patch.

After finding the right menu item (minor documentation inconsistency - see below) and clicking the “connect to remote”, I wondered how I can see that it’s successful, but I assumed when the menu changes to say “deploy…” it must be connected

After chosing deploy I wondered again how I can now see that the deploy was successful. The documentation ends there, so i clicked around a bit. There is no new preset in the Cardinal plugin, were i thought I might get a preset named as the patch that i uploaded.

At some point i realized there is a difference:

The Dwarf is running continuously at 100% CPU now… I logged in via ssh, and see that jack is the one who uses a lot of cpu the whole time. I see some things happened related to Rack / Cardinal and alsop with the modules I used in the deployed patch, but no error.

After I deleted the plugin from my pedalboard, cpu usage goes down.

Is this a bug or is this just a sign that my Cardinal patch is too much for the Dwarf?

Another minor thing is that the wording of the description is incorrect - it says I should click on “Connect to MOD” - bit the menu item is “Connect to remote” - before creating a bug I looked in the source code and actually found there is a switch that makes it being one or the other at compile time, but i dont understand why that exists and why the normal Cardinal calls it “remote” and what other devices could be remote.

Let me know if I can debug that further…


Update:

A smaller Cardinal patch worked.

One time in the process the knobs functionality on the dwarf appeared to be crashed - it didnt react on any of the physical buttons anymore but the web UI and also redeploying worked.

But the buttons only worked again after a reboot.

One thing that is less nice than with pure mod patches is that the buttons all are labeld just with “parameter 1” etc so it has to be remembered. Would be perfect if it could be identified from within the patch what the knob does but thats probably complicated or impossible.
In that case free manual naming would be good.

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