Excellent. Thanks for that info. I was previously using the JACK standalone and it was just so messy with the server and all that. Gonna go VST and see what I can cook up!
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The jack standalone is just that, a standalone on top of jack. Cardinal is mainly a plugin, so it integrates best when using it as such 
(things like Host Parameters need a plugin host to expose them)
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Haha yeah and JACK was not a fun experience in Windows 10. It always gave me an error about the server failing to start. I finally figured out if I just ignored that, Cardinal would work and I had a great time using it with the Dwarf. Just looking to make things simpler and hoping VST will do just that!
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Both Cardinal 22.06 x86 VST2 and x64 JACK versions seem to be working ok but both no longer send the preview image to the MOD ui. Tried both Cardinal and Cardinal Mini Mod plugins. I’m using a Mod Dwarf on the latest beta and a Windows 10 PC. Tried a fresh pedalboard and also rebooting the Windows machine and the Dwarf but no-go.
Also of note, using the Mod internal clock with step in the host time module still seems to miss beats. Using an external clock is still rock solid.
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If you downgrade the Dwarf to a stable version does the issue persists?
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Sorry, I’m not willing to take the time/risk downgrading right now just to test a cosmetic issue!
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All good
I asked only to understand if the issue is a bug in a new version (that is not yet stable)
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Word! I’m just at point where I’m actually making music and dare not screw up the Dwarf and pedalboards and have to deal with a backup/restore!
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That’s really legit 
Something that somethings we tend to forget 
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There is progress on getting the native desktop GUI to run on the browser.
Actually, more than progress, the entire thing already works!
Small bugs and a few more implementations aside, you can already try it live at https://cardinal.kx.studio/
@Elk_wrath maybe this version is one that works for you? I didn’t implement mobile touch events yet, only mouse input works for now, let me know if that is an issue.
How to proceed from here I am not yet sure. Will need to do some tests related to hosting the files on a MOD unit, displaying GUI on the MOD pedalboard and pushing from web to MOD.
The first hurdle is passed though.
PS: It won’t work properly on high-dpi screens for now, will fix that later.
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This is definitely a huge step in the right direction for the dawless, users out there, myself included. I tried running it on my tablet but couldn’t properly engage with the plugins but sound was coming through however but it freezes and I have to close the tab.
Running Firefox on exynos powered Samsung galaxy tab s6lite.
Very excited for all your hard work and effort in this falk. I can only imagine what a monumental task this must have been!
And in general I am very, very excited about your continual development in porting vcvrack / cardinal to the mod platform.
Hopeful for eventually being able to hear more examples of people’s patches and “boards” within this!
Cardinal is slept on sadly. I think when people realises what kind of tools available to them through some of the modules that has been ported (plateaus/clouds) they would completely change their view of this plugin.
A guide, or wiki accessibility could further the engagement and more pedalboards with cardinal in use could be instrumental in getting more attention and engagement.
Perhaps in the future?
Has Jesse or any of the other people from the mod team tried it out?
Again thank you.
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The modular stuff is not for everyone, quite a few people are scared by the amount of cables.
In regards to user patches, there is a cardinal dedicated section in patchstorage, already a few available patches there.
We can even make use of that, I recently made it so we can pass the name/id from a patchstorage link.
If you have a beefy PC, see this example https://cardinal.kx.studio/?patchstorage=wasm-house-loop
(press “run” on the top-left module to begin, warning it really pushes cpu to max!)
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Thank you!
Just as interested to see more of what the community can do as well
But it’s a bit too niche right now I guess.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet and wasn’t sure where to put it, so I’ll just leave it here and if the mods want to move it somewhere more sensible…go for it!
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Thnx Sacal. Of course over @ Cardinal irc channel we where already aware of this video.
Nice concise overview of what you can do with it (synth + midi + fx).
If only Cameron still had a MOD unit he could demo how we can load patches into them
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I love Cameron’s channel, and I like that Dwarf has a modular synth environment inside of it. That’s a huge strength and something that diferentiates it from other multi-FX boxes on the market.
That’s said, even though I like synth sounds, I’m definitely not a synth guy. On top of that, seeing a modular synth gives me anxiety, so I have to go with the obligatory:
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This is me.
I sound like a scientist that took an 8 ball to the brain when explaining patches to people that have never seen a synth.
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Hello Folks,
I’m sure I’m being an idiot. But I’ve made a couple of random looping sequencers in cardinal using the Audible instruments Marbles like thing and the Big red button sequencer (I’m very excited about this) and I can’t for the life of me work out how to get them to send midi out of the Mod duo x.
The patches work well in Ableton but upon deployment to Mod it becomes rather hard to tell whether they are active let alone get any midi signal from the device as I get no feedback from the Mod cardinal device.
Am I missing something, is Cardinal even able to send midi out through the MOD X yet?
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Ignore me I was being an idiot!
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Hello @Pablo ,
please tell us how you fixed this, because we all don’t want to stay dumb, too.
Greetings and God bless, Marius
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