Just did some testing and I’ve got the Duo X set for external midi sync, and sending it clock from the OT. Loop 1 will stay in sync with the OT using this set up. But if I use Loop 6 and feed it back into the Alo, it drifts out of sync.
Sync is more important to me than overdubbing, so I’m going to try adjusting how I do things, but sending it any signal which has reverb or delay creates an un-natural loop where the reverb for the end of the bar doesn’t overdub into the start of the loop. With a multi-track looper I never actually overdub a new signal over top of an old one, because it’s just more flexible to be able to erase your last take. But yeah, I use overdub to make more natural sounding loops.
@jon
Hi! I already use it twice in my “all in one” pedalboard.
It’s perfect except it has only one track.
I’m looking for a multitrack looper that can record without tempo syncing, like a conventional looper.
The ALO looper would be perfect that that if it could have a free tempo option.
Dry/wet mix mode setting, set to 100/100 by default
Free running mode so ALO should now work without BPM running
@Julien are you able to test this out from the upstream repo? I’ve got a couple more ideas to try before i offer it up for the beta store…
@S_Righteous regarding the clearing loops - I’m wondering about adding an additional “reset” parameter to clear all loops, while leaving the current double-click as-as. Would that work for you?
WoW! you are fast with the edits! that’s awesome.
I really appreciate your hard work and updates.
I’ve been using the square buttons on the Duo X to engage a single loop, and using multiple instances of ALO. I am getting used to the double tap option you set up, I just wish the Duo had some indicator on the screen to know the state of a loop, in case clearing it didn’t work. I assume the hardware doesn’t have that kind of element for plug-in developers - that would be next level!
Yes - a clear all would be helpful to ensure the loop is clear before engaging it again and accidentally hearing old stuff. I would probably set that up to trigger via midi as I’m running out of buttons on the Duo X.
I am currently working on a set up with 7 instances of ALO, for 7 loops. Do you think individual outputs for each loop is on the horizon? I run each loop into its own effects chain, I assume 2 instances with 12 loops would be less CPU than 7 individual instances - possibly not?
I’m going to look into the visual indication topic - it would definitely improve usability.
Not sure that separate ins/outs for each loop would make sense. Maybe I should make a 1-loop version of ALO, and then 7 instances would take up much less real-estate
Great news, this is a planned feature for v1.11
Allowing plugins to take control of device text and leds (for addressed controls). This is exactly the usecase we are targetting.
@falkTX - that’s amazing news. I love that this product is growing. My pedalboards are becoming quite complex as it is - anything that makes usability easier is a welcome addition.
Honestly, on the Mod Duo X, the two top indicators currently have the most real estate, if those were cut in half you could fit status indicators in there.
Wow! You’re fast!
For the moment I don’t know how to install a plugin using this way.
So I’ll waiit fot the Beta release.
I don’t think I’'l have time to learn how to install from the upstream repo, I’m very busy this week.
Thanks a lot!
I am having trouble now with the Midi sync of the ALO, and I’m not sure if it’s the plug-in, or some inconsistency with the DUO X setup.
On the weekend, I had the Duo set to external sync, and was sending it midi clock and transport from an Octatrack. I put a simple hi-hat pattern on the Octatrack, and recorded a kick and snare into the ALO looper to see if it all stayed in sync. I would then record the results into Logic for 6 minutes and see if things drifted - and they didn’t. I tried this a few times with great success.
Tonight, with the same set up, I could not get ALO to sync for more than two cycles of the loop. I know it was getting midi clock, and when I would stop the Octatrack, the loop would stop playing, so the midi set up of the Duo was fine - but I now can’t get reliable sync.
What could I be missing? Nothing in my set up appears to have changed. Was I just extraordinarily lucky when I was testing on the weekend?
I don’t have Ableton link, so can’t use that, and I don’t think I would have used the Duo as master, but I will certainly try that, as it might be a solution.
So yeah, I tried using the Duo as the midi master, which feels weird because my songs will start by me hitting play on the Octatrack, but yup it all stays in rock solid sync. I’m very happy this works, and was able to improvise a great track already. The ALO looper with effects makes the Duo a fully packed box for live improv! I am using 7 instances of ALO, so a single track version would be great, or if the loops had separate outputs that would also be great. But so far my CPU use hasn’t gone over 75% or anything.
Awesome!
I was just looking at this thread and you did it!
I’ll test that in the afternoon. I have too much work for the moment.
I realize now the power of Mod Device, it’s community and dev like you!
I can’t wait.
Thanks a lot.
@S_Righteous would you mind sharing or showing a screenshot of your pedalboard? I’m trying to understand your use-case so I can figure out what to tweak…
