Hi,
I think this could be very interesting for our little Dwarf… Being able to use directly most of the models in Tone3000 !! Announcing A2: The Next Generation of Neural Amp Modeler · TONE3000
Is the MOD Team planning to participate in this ?? @gianfranco, @falkTX ??https://www.neuralampmodeler.com/post/architecture-a2-test-models-are-available
I suppose the comunity could help, but first we would need a NAM plugin able to use Core 4.0 (I think @MikeOliphant is working on that… )
This looks really interesting. I’ve honestly given up on NAM on my Dwarf and I’m even considering selling it. If the MOD team ends up creating a plugin that uses this new technology, I’d definitely keep the Dwarf.
@gianfranco @falkTX are there any plans to work on a plugin in the near future?
Oh man this A2 looks absolutely amazing! I’m ashamed to admit that I’m in the same boat as you (except without the threat of selling my dwarf since I’m a horrible gear hoarder!) but after failing miserably to find a great metal tone with this pedal its sadly just been gathering dust in my studio… really stoked that this might become a thing though!!
Came here to ask the same thing; is there NAM future for the Dwarf?
It’s been a while since I created a Aida model and I’ve been experimenting with the Valeton GP-50 and NAM profiles. (but not yet with better tones than I get form my Dwarf at the moment)
I’ve used the standard trainer for a Neve preamp but the frequency curve and tone is not even close. I think NAM generally makes it better for outboard gear.
To you guys who didn’t use their Dwarf for NAM, I’ve use mine but with STARLESS OS. This OS is less buggy, snapshots work fine, NAM Nano / Aida-X with custom IR’s work great. I use mine with AIDA-X but I’ve tried using full NAM Nano captures with buffering turned on, it worked! No issues. The reason I use AIDA-X is that I have captures that sound better than NAM ones in Tone3000. Here’s a sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuqc1W64L-c
Vox AC30 and Matchless DC30.
Now, moving on to NAM A2 - can anybody please build the plugin to use it with Mod Dwarf??
Thank you @MikeOliphant .
NAM A2 is coming soon?
My NAM LV2 plugin should just work on MOD pedals if someone builds it. I haven’t added the new quality scaling parameter explicitly to the MOD UI, but you can change it by going into parameter view. I tested it on MOD Desktop and it works fine.
Right now quality scaling defaults to full quality - for Dwarf you probably want the opposite, so you get an A2 nano model. I’ll likely make this a build option.
A2 nano should be a good fit for the Dwarf. And with Tone3000 back-converting existing models to A2, there will be a ton available.
I think A2 feather or something similar would be the best for Dwarf. At the moment I’m running your plugin with 2x A1 feather (+IR reverb, looper, eq, wah, tremolo and delay) smoothly. Strangely with 2x nano nam, I get more xruns… it s like with nano (around 33% CPU) the CPU Core is changing, but with feather (63% CPU) it stays at the same core…
That might be the case - but the “official” A2 architecture looks to be a bundle of a nano and a standard model. That doesn’t mean you couldn’t train something in between, but you’ll probably mostly just get the default A2 setup being shared on Tone3000.
I’ve seen behavior like this as well. It seems like it might have to do with power management, but I’m not sure.
How can I update the NAM plugin in MOD Dwarf? It’s not enabling the update option in plugin store.
Still not in the store. Until then, only option is to build yourself using GitHub - mod-audio/mod-plugin-builder: MOD Plugin Builder · GitHub
A2 released today?
It seems so.
But I am not sure if the models have been re-trained already. I heard that there was a plan for such.
I was excited to see the Mod Dwarf displayed in the book case!! I kept zooming in on it. I am looking forward to developments. Mod Dwarf is the best.
Here is his blog:
I did some tests compiling the lv2 from @MikeOliphant with the mod-plugin-builder and only some few patches are needed…
Good news A2-lite works (around 36% cpu show in mod-ui with only the nam plugin without any buffer at 128), unfortunately A2-full still not. Perhaps there is some room but optimisation, but probably not… anyway I m quite happy with thousands models A2-lite !!
Later I try to do a pull request in mod-plugin-builder for you guys…
Yeah, A2-full is, if anything, more expensive than A1 standard - so no surprise there.
A2-lite is likely a pretty big quality/cpu tradeoff win vs A1-nano or A1-feather, though - and as you say you get access to all of the re-trained models on Tone3000.
Yes, I agree. Thanks again @MikeOliphant
If somebody is interested… here the pull request Nam a2 by fragfz · Pull Request #197 · mod-audio/mod-plugin-builder · GitHub
Notes:
The buffered option is removed, but you always have the portal plugins. As a side note, this could trigger an error with Starless image if open or bootup with a pedalboard using the old NAM plugin. error opening pedalboard when a plugin is updated with less parameters · Issue #32 · sejerpz/alabs-mod-custom-images · GitHub
You can ran up to 3x NAM A2 lite in serial, or 4x in 2 parallel lines with 128 Frames
When using calibrated NAM, best to decrease the input lvl of the plugin around -10dB, as the plugin expects 12dBu input, but Mod Dwarf input is 2.2dBU (with input setting at 0db ):