How big is the jump from the original Mod Duo to a Mod Dwarf?

[Boi_Social]

Compared to the Mod Duo it’s more responsive via USB?
That would be great because half the time my OG Mod Duo just won’t connect…

[Boi_Social]

@Abotte

screen size becomes a serious limit: maybe by using a tablet you can have a better experience.

Ok but is it slow in functioning over bluetooth or is it slow to use because of the screen size or both. Nit very clear to me from what you’ve written.

I have my android tablet on me everywhere so I use that.

PS:
Does the dwarf have biult in bluetooth?

[Boi_Social]

What’s the difference between independent multi stage input leveling vs Mod Dwarf input specs?? What’s the difference in practice?

Also the output on the dwarf isn’t balanced/TRS?

Why is maximum parameters assignable per knob written down twice?

Can the dwarf be used as a usb midi host? If so, can it handle a usb hub for usb midi in AND out?

[dreamer]

@Boi_Social

Does the dwarf have biult in bluetooth?

No, nobody ever claimed this.

Network over bluetooth is just never going to be as reliable or fast as a physical connection.

Dwarf indeed does not have balanced/TRS input or outputs. Just regular line level.

What do you mean with “used as a usb midi host”?
You can connect usb midi devices on its usb-host port. And yes you can use a usb hub to connect several.

These will show up as individual i/o in the editor if you enable that. This is the same for all MOD devices. If you already have a Duo there is nothing different.

[Abotte]

@Boi_Social

Ok but is it slow in functioning over bluetooth or is it slow to use because of the screen size or both

In my personal experience, it’s both: once connected, it takes a long time to render a pedalboard (about 40 to 60 seconds). Once it is loaded, you can navigate the pedalboard smoothly, but the mix of small screen size and the use of touch screen to select and drag the plugins lead to a poor user experience on a phone.

I still find this feature useful and I’m glad to have bought the Bluetooth dongle, because it allows me to apply quick fixes on my pedalboards even when I can’t use a computer. But if responsiveness is what your looking for, you’d better use a regular USB connection.

[khz]

@Boi_Social

Can the dwarf be used as a usb midi host? If so, can it handle a usb hub for usb midi in AND out?

Yes, if you do that. IMHO
https://wiki.mod.audio/wiki/Audio_Through_USB

But note that there is still a ~problem at the moment.

Need for beat perfect tempo sync at core level

right, another thing to take into consideration too. I was just talking with Robin @x42 regarding how Ardour does the MTC side, have some good pointers for things to look into once MOD can dedicate some time for this. updating the step sequencer is still a good step, and allows to quickly test/check if the clock sync is working proper. and I am thinking having such clock as CV pulse in Cardinal might be quite handy too, for driving things based on a hardware timing rather than the DAW/Host.

Purely technical Phaze III:
https://wiki.mod.audio/wiki/Duo_Technical_Specs
https://wiki.mod.audio/wiki/Duo_X_Technical_Specs
https://wiki.mod.audio/wiki/Dwarf_Technical_Specs

[Boi_Social]

@dreamer

No, nobody ever claimed this.

Dude chill, it was just a general question…

[Boi_Social]

Thanks for the info

[Boi_Social]

@khz

Yes, if you do that. IMHO
https://wiki.mod.audio/wiki/Audio_Through_USB

Ehm but usb midi hosting is not the same as audio interface not looking to use it as an audio interface.

Do u have an answer to my questions instead of just sending me technical information I dont understand?

Here are my questions again:

@Boi_Social

What’s the difference between independent multi stage input leveling vs Mod Dwarf input specs?? What’s the difference in practice?

Also the output on the dwarf isn’t balanced/TRS?

Why is maximum parameters assignable per knob written down twice?

Thanks

[khz]

I’m just trying to help, based on purely technical data as I only have the DuoX.
When I did the "Audio_Through_USB " according to wiki I had not only audio but also MIDI I/O that I can use on my computer. You just have to activate the “Separated mode” in the Web_GUI: MOD Web GUI User Guide - MOD Wiki.
It should be the same with the Dwarf. IMHO
Or do you want to use the USB_MIDI independently of the computer, i.e. only with external HW devices? I haven’t tested that yet.

[spaetzel_crusher]

What are a few examples of new and fancy plugins that the Duo can’t run? If I read your post correctly. I haven’t fully explored the plugins and this would be a time saver.

[jon]

I can answer that with some examples.
To start, most of the modeling stuff (so NAM, AIDA, etc). I’m not sure if they are available even for the MOD Duo, but if they are, hardly you will be able to run any model.
Then you have plugins such as the Looperlative ones that are not available.
RM Pro I think also can’t run. Then some of the newer Delays, Reverbs, Amps and cabinets will also take all your CPU very quickly.

[Boi_Social]

Would u recommend any specific WiFi dongle? I mean is there stuff out there that won’t be compatible with the Mod Dwarf?

PS pulled the trigger on the mod dwarf

[Rom]

I’ve bought one which doesn’t need any additional driver on Linux… I don’t remember the name, it’s really cheat and work like a charm

[gianfranco]

@Boi_Social

Would u recommend any specific WiFi dongle

If you want to play safe, go for any Edimax branded adapter. They offer great Linux support.

[Boi_Social]

Also is there a tutorial on how to things setup for the wireless connection?

[jon]

Yep!
Check it out here

[Boi_Social]

Wow I have no ide what “SSH into the device” means…

[Avery_Devine]

Feel free to message me about it! I work in tech support and could use more experience explaining these sorts of things.

[Boi_Social]

Awesome thanks a bunch!
Do u mind if I take a while?
Got some heavy stuff going on at home right now…