Darkglass Anagram

I mostly bought the Dwarf for bass fx so I’d more like to see stuff from Anagram make it into the device. Love the DG sound. My whole rig is DG except I usually use HX effects for fx.

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I got an Anagram today.
I hope the day of ssh connection will come sooner.
Need Pablito OS update?

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Mine arrived last week and I already play with my bandmates: they wanted to buy instantly.

I think this is the best small unit in the market. I had also Nano and Quad Cortex but this is much better because it has all the features you can need and it sounds killer also for guitar.
For fractal level it needs more works on sims

It needs only some midi implementation (with the same midi set of Dwarf will be the perfect device)

Needs also some mod and dly/rev blocks for example phaser, some stereo delay (a ping pong, a circular delay and a 2290 sim)
Maybe also a multiband compressor like on Axefx but I think that could be too much.

The only issues it had is that loading too much neural profiles (over 200) the darkglass suite on MACs goes on timeout, on PC no problem and sometimes it can stop the audio changing preset (it happened two times in many hours) but for that I shut off and restart in 5 seconds.

I’m soooooo happy

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Update: when suite had the issue (3 days ago on Sunday) I opened a ticket with Darkglass support that answered me on monday, now (wednesday) I started the suite and I found an update that solve my issue.

Only 3 days. This is really impressive and awesome.
@gianfranco thank to all the Darkglass team!

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The pedal looks awesome, but I guess I should maybe use my Dwarf more, instead of buying into the next new shiny thing. ^^

Still I got one question for @falkTX or maybe @MikeOliphant.
The AIDAX plugin is able to use conditioned models with their hidden generic knobs. Are these knobs also available with the Anagram?

Hi @CharlyRebell

No. The current Anagram loader just accepts static models.

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My wallet agrees with you, and if on-device editing had ever materialized on the Dwarf per the original plan (even super-simple series-based single chain paths like a Zoom MultiStomp!), the rest of me probably would as well. I got rid of my MC6 in favor of a Graviton M2 for the on-device editing; the Anagram is a no-brained especially with the MOD DNA in it. Plus as a bassist, the initial focus makes it even more appealing.

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Yeah, I couldn’t agree more. The on-device editing is the feature that’s most appealing to me too.
Even at this moment I started another try to reconfigure my Wifi setup in a way, that lets me change plugins easier during rehearsals.

@gianfranco Thank you for the information. Totally understandable since it’s more of a niche feature, but do you think this has a realistic chance to be added in the future?

A friend brought his Anagram over so that we could play with ins and outs and so I could hear how it sounds through my gear. First of all, the experience was overwhelmingly positive. Easy to get some basic things going; but we were also shooting for some advanced functionality so a few hurdles. Some comments below as well as questions for @falkTX and @gianfranco because there is no official Darkglass forum to go to; apologies if this is getting out-of-bounds for the MOD forum (and where would you recommend we post this instead if it is?).

  1. Although the return is mentioned in the official Darkglass deep-dive video as a way for a second pickup or even a second instrument to be effected differently, the return seems to be AFTER the tuner and the looper. Is that intentional and can it be changed? A second instrument seems like it couldn’t be tuned or used in a looping scenario as is.

  2. Although the return is stereo, there doesn’t seem to be a way to split the return signal on different paths, even using the splitter. Am I getting that wrong somehow? It seems like the return would be the perfect place for a stereo-output guitar (anyone equipped with Graphtech piezos, for example, or a Rickenbacker) could just use a stereo cable to jack into the return as a stereo input, rather than needing an insert cable (unless that’s only for use if an expression pedal will also be used). Still begs the first question, though.

  3. Supposing the return COULD be used as a stereo input, wouldn’t that technically make it possible to have three inputs? Is that insanity considering there are only two paths with a splitter or could you go into global ins and outs and do something like map input 1 straight to the outputs so that if you had an audio player it could just bypass the effects as a through signal?

I think that’s all for now, although I’m also curious if MOD-style utilities like the audio player are things that the Anagram architecture would support in the future.

It’s a fun box. Doesn’t sound digital at all, except where it’s meant to (synth presets etc). Not gonna lie, a bit jealous of my friend for being an early adopter and definitely tempted to go over to the Dark(glass) side.

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Hi @RashDecisionAudio

Sorry for the delay. I missed this message.

For the moment it cannot be changed. The design of the device is meant for one instrument only and you can “hack” a secondary input with the return and split blockl, but that’s not a use case by design. There are internal discussions about this though.

You are right. There is no such flexibility at the moment.

Yes. Technically there are three inputs ( Mono Main + Stereo Return) but the device lacks the flexibility for such internal connections.

At least for the time being :slight_smile:

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Darkglass, MOD Audio, and the future…
They are discussing Anagram and some parts of MOD.
MOD Father is there. :smiley:

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Is there a world in the future where MOD’os is installed on the Anagram ?
(sold like this or manually installed)

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That would be super, event if my use case is not covered by the current hardware.

First I saw the interview and I’ve to admit that mod where already quite there conceptually years ago, but far from the usability POW. So big thanks to all the mod audio team: I love my dwarf.

Then I’ve a question: why the anagram has a mono input? With that limit in the HW can’t be used as a stereo FX processor and also can’t really be used seriously with an acoustic guitar which has minimum two sources (see for example fishman powertap earth or fishman rare earth…).

So even if the anagram platform will be a reality in the future sure I will not be a part of it, just for the mono input :frowning:

Anyway thanks all for your work, I really enjoy seeing linux on audio HW.

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That would be so great.
I’d go for an Anagram for its processor power to do the guitar stuff and use the dwarf for vocals, piano,…

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Okay, I bit. Got an Anagram and I definitely love it. Also definitely not getting rid of my Dwarf, since there’s a whole heck of a lot that it does that the Anagram can’t and probably won’t ever be able to do. But for ease of use live, on-the-fly, and without an external editor? The Anagram is easily the new core of my bass rig. Dwarf now for the desktop projects. And knowing that there is a massive field of LV2 plug-ins waiting to be converted to Anagram makes its current limitations seem irrelevant.

However—one pressing thing I can’t figure out while getting it set up for my band: @gianfranco and @falkTX, I know that the MIDI implementation is still not complete, but does MIDI through work yet? I’ve set the Anagram to listen on channel 1 and I have a downstream pedal listening on channel 6 that isn’t getting messages from the Anagram’s MIDI out cable. ¡Ayúdame!

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Alright never mind—I remembered that the Graviton M2 can send MIDI out over its 1/4” TRS jacks in addition to the 3.5mm TRS MIDI jack, so to get around the lack of MIDI through I’m just sending different wires to the different devices. Problem solved! Although still looking forward to the eventuality.

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