Starless unofficial Dwarf image - ALABS

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#194

Quick question: can anyone running the stock firmware confirm if preset assignment to an encoder is working?

It doesn’t seem to work with the Starless firmware, and I can’t identify any change on my side that could have caused a regression.

#195

Hi Andrea, not recently but I ve used stock 1.13 firmware with preset assigned to knobs without problems. More recently with your 7b firmware there was also no problem. I didn’t try 8b

EDIT: In the device Settings I have always the CLICK mode for the list behavior selected

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#196

Hello @AndreaDelSignore,

Thanks for the great work!
I tested your new version, particularly on the bug that I previously mentioned and it’s sort of there still.
So, when I access the plugin editor view on the AIDA-X and then move the presets, all is good (it was not before) as long as I keep in the middle of the preset list. As soon as I scroll all the way up, after the first preset, it “throws me” back to the view of what I have assigned to that control on the first page. Not even getting out and coming back to the plugin editor will help.
Would a video help you?

#197

It’s working fine here.

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#198

How does the standard firmware behave in the following case?

  1. Controller list behavior set to CLICK (in settings)
  2. The encoder is rotated to select a different preset, but the selection is not confirmed with a click
#199

umm that’s a good question. I’m not 100% sure (long time ago…), but I think it remains in this position till the HMI is updated. For this you need to change subpage or page and come back to that page. Somehow after so many firmwares, I’m used to do this to double check very often.

PD: with the very useful plugin Companion plugin for external MIDI control buttons, where you assign an action to a dwarf control and also to CV or midi. The Dwarf is also not updated till you change page/subpage. Only the leds on the footswitches I think are updated cyclically.

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#200

With the standard firmware and it set to CLICK it seems glitchy here:

  1. Rotate knob and value changes on the dwarf screen, wait until timeout goes back to previous screen, value on display and value in the plugin are now different. Clicking makes no difference.

  2. Rotate knob and value changes on the dwarf screen, before timeout goes back to previous screen click. this works.

I’ll put the old mod-host back and see if that makes a difference…

Edit: It still seems pretty buggy with CLICK turned on, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.

Basically:

  1. If you don’t confirm with a click the Dwarf display changes but the plugins preset doesn’t. So they are out of sync.

  2. If you try to confirm with a click after the display has gone back from the list, then the list re-appears and even clicking again will not change the preset.

  3. If you now try to change to the next preset this also fails, you need to choose the one after that or the one before to get it unstuck.

So the initial error condition seems to be caused by the list timing out and the one that was selected but not clicked can become what the Dwarf thinks is the current preset even though it isn’t (this can also randomly take on a different value)

It’s pretty bust I would say!

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#201

Thanks, both you and @fer confirm that there isn’t a regression, it’s just the standard behaviour (or perhaps an old bug :slight_smile: )

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#202

Yep, I would say it’s broken. I added some more info in my previous post.

#203

Also be aware that sometimes moving through a long list, the timeout closes the list. So thanks to this “bug” we are closer to the desire selection…

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#204

Oops… that’s another bug :smiley:

#205

I have been trying to work out what’s going on and the magic number seems to be 3!

If you have the 4th preset selected and then only try to choose presets from the 4th preset on everything works as expected.

So preset 1, 2 and 3 are dodgy.

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#206

standard controller firmware?

#207

yep

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#208

On a side note, I hope to publish an updated Starless image soon with all the other known bugs fixed (except for the last one we’re discussing, which has been present in the standard firmware for quite a long time).

I won’t include the mod-host modifications yet — I’d like to stabilize this release first, and then introduce further changes in a later update.

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#209

Hi @jon how many presets do you have? I’ll try to replicate this evening

#210

Reproduced, but not and easy fix :frowning:

Thanks!

EDIT: For the next release I implemented a workaround. However, this is not a proper fix, since the page is not refreshed when the preset changes. You can manually refresh it by switching to the next page and then going back again.

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#211

Hi! Thank you for your work! I have a few observations:
I`m currently on Windows 11 and firefox

  1. When Control Chain foot controller is assigned Bindings does not open, but opens again once Control chain assignment is removed.
  2. In presets menu REN, delete and one of the “save” symbols are greyed out and does not work
#212

Hi,

thanks for the report:

  1. yes I’m aware of the problem, a tentative fix will be included in the next release, but I’m not sure if it will fix it (see the messages I sent to @Abotte earlier)
  2. All of this is fixed as well in the next release.
#213

New release - aLabs version 10

This is a bug-fix release. Preset selection should now work in most cases.

Please test it and report here.

Download: Release aLabs version 10 · sejerpz/alabs-mod-custom-images · GitHub

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